Romney Adviser Blames “Far Right” for Romney Loss

When President Obama repeatedly blamed George W. Bush for the condition of the economy, Republicans repeatedly took issue with the charge. Both parties were to blame for the way Congress forced financial institutions to loan money to people who had no business being approved for a mortgage.

Congress has been in the business of wrecking the economy and then claiming they have the solution to fix the problems they created. Curses on both their houses.

Now the blame-game is coming from the Romney camp. In an interview with Candy Crowley, Romney adviser Carlos Gutierrez first attacked Romney for his remarks about “gifts” by Obama to buy votes. On this Romney is correct despite what some Republicans who are trying to position themselves for 2016 are saying. Then Gutierrez goes further off the rails. Like so many Establishment Republicans, he does not understand the mood of millions of conservatives who once formed the foundation of the Republican Party and gave it substantial victories in past elections, 2010 being the most recent:

“I think we lost the election because the far right of this party has taken the party to a place that it doesn’t belong. We are the party of prosperity, of growth, of tolerance. I mean these immigrants who come across and what they do wrong is they risk their lives, they come here and they work because they want to be part of the American Dream. That’s what the GOP is.”

Mr. Gutierrez does not say what these “far right” positions are. No one I’ve spoken with is against immigrants. It’s the illegal idea that has people questioning our immigration policy. We need a solution to the problem without growing the welfare state. We are a welcoming people. Sad to say, neither side has an equitable solution to the problem.

But let’s get back to the “far right” charge. The following comment on Breitbart’s site says it all for those who did not trust Romney’s conservative bona fides:

“We haven't moved Right at all. The fact is that we've moved so far Left that we ended up nominating Mitt Romney — the ultimate Establishment, Liberal, Rockefeller Republican candidate We nominated the guy who invented RomneyCare (the prototype for ObamaCare), the guy who donated to Planned Parenthood, the guy who had a program to use taxpayer money to pay for abortions, the guy who kicked the boy scouts out of the Olympics to appease gay rights groups, the guy who said he would always defend a ‘woman’s right to choose,’ the guy who bragged about having tough control laws in Massachusetts... we nominated THE MOST LIBERAL REPUBLICAN IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY and they still say we need to move further to the Left. How much further to the Left can we move?!!

Conservatives, even those who voted for Romney, were suspicious of Romney and his advisers. They believed that another four years of Obama of Company would set in concrete a liberal agenda that we may not be able to recover from. If Mr. Gutierrez thinks a swing to the center is the ticket to victory in 2014 and 2016, he’s in for a big shock.


About Gary DeMar
Gary is a graduate of Western Michigan University (1973) and earned his M.Div. at Reformed Theological Seminary in 1979. He is the author of countless essays, news articles, and more than 27 book titles.
  • matism

    The comment from Breitbart says it all.

    • John2012

      Yes indeed.

  • Dee

    I blame voter fraud.

    • ACHILLESLIVES!

      When it runs as rampant as it just did in this stolen election, you are right to think so. CHICAGO STOLE THE ELECTION. 108% turnout for the kenyan tree sloth in one precinct, 141% in another!!! NO VOTES for Romney in many precincts-not even by accident, voting machines that came up "donkey" no matter who you voted for, and of

      course the legal hit turd of holders "injustice department" crushing all eligibility verification laws that were meant to stop this exact rothstein-style fixing-(see 1919 World Series). Add all that up, find the percentage of fraud and match it to the alleged percent of the zionist trojan horses claim to victory and you'll most likely be looking at a matching number. didn't anyone think it odd that fox news BEGAN the election and ran all through it with a new segment on "Voter Fraud". they even had a hotline to call it in. why would they suddenly have such an 'entity' in their own broadcast?? Did they know that would be a major factor and allowed for the appearance of addressing it to cover their own backsides if it went so rampant that we discovered it?? One has to wonder given they began with that sideline well BEFORE any votes were ever cast. Immediately after the election they all spun right over to Benghazi and stopped even so much as examining the irregularities that cropped up all over the nation-(see listed above). Romney may not have been the best choice-(he wasn't), but the corrupted right which answers to the same globalist/zionist masters as the left-(see AIPAC AND OTHER EXCREMENT) keep settting themselves up for a close failure for the last two elections. seems their masters like to 'put on a good show' of a democratic Republic and so they give us these losers-(see arm-wagging mccain and soft-peddler romney) who seem to know just how to throw a fight and make it look good. TIME FOR THE AMERICANS. TO CLEAN HOUSE.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neal-Avery/100003816547114 Neal Avery

        Don't forget they ran Bob Dole. Another left wing (Rockefeller) loser.

      • beelp

        A tree sloth wiff big ears.

      • ltbl123

        Voter fraud definitely played a very large role in the defeat of Romney but this article misses an important point. It's not the so called "far right" that contributed to this loss. It was the decison by the Republican establishment Karl Rove types to alienate the conservative voter, especially the social conservative voters. Personally I do not agree or approve of abstaining because unlike many, for me there is a vast chasim of difference in intensity and purpose between the current little dictator and Romney. Romney with all his political warts, by his religious beliefs alone, would be contrained to operate within the boundaries of the Constitution and the rule of law. By not voting for him, by default we have elected the man of lawlisness, a prototype of the real article to come.

        The conservative voter has been compelled to compromise over and over again to placate the amoral or imoral sensibilities of the establishment Republicans, and the muddled middle of the American electorate. The problem is the Establishment of the Republican party keeps doubling down on fiscal issues and unwilling to barely toss a bone to the social conservative voter. The EXTREME left is fully represented by an illegal and corrupt office holder.( Karl Marx resides somewhere to his right). The Republican party is going to have to hold its nose and allow a socially conservative candidate advance to nomination.

        Regardless of the way the rest of the world goes, these voters aren't going to compromise their core beliefs anymore than the Communists that are currently in power will compromise theirs. Death verses Life, Light verses Darkness and God verses Godless, they are not reconcilable differences.

        • hjjusa

          I read about an obama supporter going from house to house in Chigago trying to get people to vote for o, all but a few were for Romney.I smell voter fraud.

        • squeak

          You have a good sense of smell...I agree... voter fraud...recall should be in order !

    • patsy1715

      And all the Free Bees.

  • John Adams

    I blame the republican party which has abandoned the conservative/Christian right.

    • bjones41

      AMEN! We are not the only ones that believe this. I am going to register as an Independent,. I am now ashamed to say I am a Republican. I see the party going the same route that the old Democrat party went.

      • John Adams

        I have voted for the Constitution Party candiate for the last two presidential elections.

        • http://www.facebook.com/sarah.turner.543 Sarah Turner

          Yes and look what you have accomplished by you efforts. All of you have rlrcted Obama to 4 more years of failure and give him a chancr yo stack the Supreme Court with Radical Socialist judges for the next 40 plus years. We had finally made it through 4 of the worst years in the history of America, but that wasn't bag enough for all of you. I think that the real John Adams would ask yhat you not use his name.

        • SamRiddle

          That's right, a vote for an independent candidate is a vote for Obama, since the independents had no chance of winning... How dumb can you get!

        • reddhead

          I don't know Sam blaming John for the loss instead of the true loser MITT

        • SamRiddle

          I'm not blaming John, I'm blaming people who think like John, everybody likes Ron Paul but everybody new he had no chance of winning. So why in the world would you waste your vote on an independent in such a crucial election, this is why Romney lost. The democrats came out in force and used every dirty trick in the book to win. Not to mention that we are living in a new era of "dumbed down citizens" who vote based on race and pop culture rather than whats detrimental to saving our economy and protecting our civil rights as well as the US Constitution....

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rhonda-Reichel/1339255666 Rhonda Reichel

          Romney did his dirty tricks during the primary and convention....he deserved to lose
          Ron Paul would have won if he had been nominated....Thanks for nominating a RINO that we couldn't vote for ....you reelected Obama....not Ron Paul voters

        • Bogwon06

          How simple minded can you get and still be alive. You do not understand how voting works do you. There needs to be an IQ check for prospective voters to avoid this kind of illogical thinking.

        • squeak

          Isn't it amazing people like her come out & make idiotic statements & think nothing of it... she has mourned Paul ever since he lost & kept telling everyone she will not vote or will write him in... so now she comes out & wants to blame us, the ones that voted for Romney...she has it turned around, Her & all the Paulbots , third party voters helped Obama win re-election...simple minded was a mild version as I would have told her, more like a MENTAL MIDGET !!

        • caskinner

          The Paulbots are all cut from the same kooky, oh I mean, cookie cutter.

        • squeak

          Exactly right ! Kooky is more like it !

        • caskinner

          Wow....just wow.....Can you find your way home from an outing???

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carol-Fryer/100000156546455 Carol Fryer

          Mitt being so liberal was the reason so many didnt vote for him. So we blame the voter instead of the GOP handing us another liberal.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carol-Fryer/100000156546455 Carol Fryer

          i guess its easier because you know the GOP wont listen.....so you have to take it out on someone.

        • sonny

          You that call Mitt a "loser," If I was a millionaire (or is that BILLIONAIRE)
          like Mitt, you could call me anything you like. He's hardly a "loser."

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rhonda-Reichel/1339255666 Rhonda Reichel

          try off shoring your money then

        • Ott

          yep . now he can sleep at night. get up in the morning and decide what he wants to do.

        • frugalvoter

          He lost this election! If he didn't let him, re-count the votes or at least investigate all the reported fraud! If both parties have been involved in fraud then we will all know about it, if not, still we would all know!
          Mild Mitt is a gentleman but you can't win a fight with international gangsters without taking off your gloves! He didn't fight before the election and he isn't fighting now! Before the electorate announces the winner, he could fight, but he had better hurry!

        • reddhead

          he is a Mass Liberal too

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1314740521 Patrick Munsch

          as dumb as you voting for some one just because they could win instead of for someone you truly believe is best for this country.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rhonda-Reichel/1339255666 Rhonda Reichel

          all those pundits who kept saying Ron Paul can't win look pretty stupid now....as if Romney had a snowball's chance in hell

        • boccagalupe

          Why do you say that Rhonda?? Did Ron Paul win? The truth of the matter is, WE PUT LOSERS UP FOR ELECTION. Pure and simple, LOSERS. Nobody liked Mitt but considered him to be the "lesser of two evils. The blame needs to go where it belongs. The RNC/GOP and its management.
          They insist on running "nice" people for president. truth is, nice people run last. Lets get rid of the RNC think tank and recruit some management types that will run some street fighters. Obama once said that "we will fight in the streets,and if they bring a knife, we'll bring a gun" Thats the type of winner we need to run in the future. People will say I cannot vote for a person like that. They are the same ones that "cvould not bring themselves to vote for a Mormon" We had better change, or condemn ourselves to being LOSERS.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1314740521 Patrick Munsch

          AMEN!

        • mallen11

          Sam, they don't see it and they never will even when our country goes the way of socialism or communism or follows the laws of the muslims.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rhonda-Reichel/1339255666 Rhonda Reichel

          Mitt had no chance of winning either....how dumb can YOU get?

        • Steve

          Voting for morals, honesty and integrity is not a "wasted vote". So sick of hearing that, so sick of voting for the lesser of the two evils also. The reason they dont have a chance is because our system is made up of two "clubs" with gobs of money! Until that changes NOTHING will change! At least voting for who you truly believe in allows you to sleep at night knowingg you werent responsible for the destruction of our country. Face it, Obama or Romney would give us the same results! They both stand for the loss of our freedom and liberty!

        • Steve

          So voting on the person who is uncorruptable, has morals and has fought for our freedoms is apparently the unamerican thing to do according to some people, that is the problem with our country today, it is truly acceptable to use our constitution as toilet paper. Tell me please EXACTLY what Romneys plan was that was SO different from Obamas to restore our country! I bet you cant!

        • Cameron

          Its ok to come out of the closet Sarah. Many of us see you for what you really are, a liberal. Romney was proud to have Obamacare modeled after Romneycare. Romney has supported bailouts, stimulus, gun restrictions, Ben Bernanke, social security and medicare for a short list. These are all socialist ideas.

        • SamRiddle

          Anything would have been an improvement on Obama...

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/LK6LEUXM2PW2A656WPXEBTDGZA Sunny

          i don;'t vote for the PARTY....just the person...the one who will NOT do harm to america...thats about it...the rest with the right team works out okay for america!!!!!

        • Cameron

          Socialism is socialism. Romneys 2013 budget was more than Obama will spend this year. Your logic is like asking for a bandaid when you just cut your arm off. I feel good knowing I didnt support this whole Keynesian establishment polititions We are bankrupt. Would you have voted for Romney if you had to be taxed immediately. Romney and Obama will continue kicking the can down the path because there is no road left to kick it on.

        • SamRiddle

          Sign Senator Rand Pauls National Right to Work bill and shut down the Unions... at
          http://righttoworkcommittee.org/rprtwac_petition.aspx?pid=zo17

        • Bogwon 06

          Your full of crap and lies Cameron. You don't know what your talking about. Plain Bull****

        • Cameron

          Nice rebuttal. Where is your facts to disprove me? Videos are all over the net with Romney supporting everything I mentioned.

        • Steve

          You see Cameron, they cant! They bury their heads in the sand and call yoy names but they CANNOT dispute facts! Romney and his croneys were more corrupt in the primaries than Obama has been in his entire first term. Theydont know that because they watch the MSM propaganda and will vote for their "team" no matter if theirs is a criminal. They dont care about truly researching what theyre voting for, its just voting for the lesser of two evils, as usual! It was truly DISGUSTING what happened during the primaries and showed the "true" colors of the republican party. Romney lost to McCain who lost to Obama in the last election........duh! Lets put him in as our nominee, just as stupid as you can get! Blame the damn republican party for nominating Romney, dont blame the "educated" Ron Paul supporters. They were just following the rules unlike the republican party.

        • vincent

          The shills for the GOP have flooded the forums with their whining for the last week. I am sure John Adams would ask you not to associate his name and legacy with your mildly socialist party.
          The Republicans gerrymandered Alan West out of his seat in FL. The GOPsters hate the tea party as much as the Demoncats. At least the Dems are open about their hatred. Finally, Orrin Hatch admitted his animosity to the press. Utah Repubicans re-elected him too.
          Your GOP worked with the Progressives to debase the dollar, add 16000 agents to the vicious IRS, implement the indefinite detention of American citizens, transfer billions of dollars to foreign despots, allow young men to lose their lives and limbs for their military excursions, fund the EPA, sabotage the Right To Work laws at the state level, use our taxes to fund the disastrous TARP, create the DHS and TSA, invade countries without a formal declaration or even a debate in CONGRESS. Oh yeah-- the Repubicans even granted hundreds of thousands of H1B visas to immigrants, despite the millions of unemployed American workers begging for jobs.
          How did Justice Roberts work out for you? Wasn't Roberts appointed by a Republican? Did you know the the Senate GOP voted in lockstep to confirm ACLU lawyer Ruth Bayder Ginsberg in the 90s?
          But continue to live in a dream world.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carol-Fryer/100000156546455 Carol Fryer

          You are right. They hate the constitution. Ive seen it all through the primaries with what they did to Ron Paul. They stink now. theyve morphed into liberals.

        • livefreeNH

          All true.

        • Jack_Reacher

          Right on, Sarah!

        • reddhead

          Do you know who John Adams is Sarah

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carol-Fryer/100000156546455 Carol Fryer

          Dont do that. Thats terrible. Thats his vote not yours you twit. Poeple like you drive people away from your cause.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1314740521 Patrick Munsch

          JUST LIKE A LIBERAL, blame someone else for your failure. The republican party and its blind followers are to blame for Obama getting re-elected, NOT those that ACTUALLY vote their principles.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rhonda-Reichel/1339255666 Rhonda Reichel

          that's because they don't have any principles

        • Bogwon 06

          With people like you Rhonda, this country is DOOMED even faster than I thought it was. Your ideology is just as radical as the Lefties, your just too blind to see it.

        • mallen11

          Sarah, you are absolutely right and along with all the other self-righteous people who voted for -0 the same way or wrote in a name. Totally rediculous. Romney was not my choice and he isn't even a conservative but I do not believe he would take our country down the path to socialism or communism or allow the muslims to take control of our laws, culture and customs. I doubt that they won't even think it is their fault either. They can't think any better than the demoRats.

        • John Adams

          Well, I have to do as the Lord leads me.
          BTW, how much good have the republican nominated supreme court justices done for us?

        • Jack_Reacher

          Well, John you would have been better served to stick your ballot where the sun didn't shine. But you really showed them, didn't you?

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rhonda-Reichel/1339255666 Rhonda Reichel

          We all showed them.....get it?
          Don't try anything but a CONSTITUTIONAL CONSERVATIVE again or you will keep losing

        • squeak

          LOL... exactly...they voted for Obama...stupid is as stupid does !!

        • Procius

          John, unfortionatrly that is throwing your vote away. No third party has ever, nor most likey will never carry an election in this country under the electoral system. As you have probably found out by now, popular vote does not matter

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carol-Fryer/100000156546455 Carol Fryer

          i wrote in Ron Paul and I will do so till the GOP comes to their senses. If they dont ....lOh well.....get over it....Its MY vote.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rhonda-Reichel/1339255666 Rhonda Reichel

          Amen Carol....I did too and feel vindicated that they couldn't shove a liberal down our throats again

        • squeak

          Wow, you should move & live under Chavez & maybe, just maybe you will appreciate the Freedom you have here & vote the way a SENSIBLE person should...do you realize you voted for Obama ?? Thanks for NOTHING !!

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rhonda-Reichel/1339255666 Rhonda Reichel

          up until now...2 losses in a row might convince some of you neocons to leave the sinking ship

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/LK6LEUXM2PW2A656WPXEBTDGZA Sunny

        so that means YOUR VOTE will never count??!!??!!

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rhonda-Reichel/1339255666 Rhonda Reichel

          It counted enought to slap the GOP in the face again

      • Procius

        I have been a registered independent all of my voteing life. II have never registered with either the R or D party, never. I don't believe in voteing along party lines, I study the condidates record, They will always do in the future as they have done in the past. I am really tired of having to vote for the lesser of two evils. Listen up RNC, unless you like being on the bottom.

        • Jeff Brodhead

          The political "game" is to make the only "viable" votes Wrong and Wronger; a Protracted death for America, or Fast death. No matter how long it takes, the Repubs and DemonicRATs seems to have the same end-game.

      • Janiemac

        I changed after they nominated McCain!

      • frawgeyz

        I don't know where you are from but in my state the Independent ticket is a duplicate demorat ticket and the same for conservative and Rep.!

    • elmcqueen3

      I agree....Sorry but it's only going to get worse....In fact the Republican party should hang up their shingle....This party is dead....But it's not necessarily their fault....Since the 1960's all the radical elements of this country have hijacked the Democrat party with the help of the New World Order elitist who have chosen the Democrat party as their base of operations.....Demorgaphics say that white folk are now the minority....If the Republican's want to survive they must join the majority on the left....Which they have tried to do but still haven't completely crossed that line....That being blacks, hispanics, chinese, asians, muslim, and the list goes on and on of foreigners who are/have immigrating into this country legally and illegally....We conservatives and chirstian are to be crushed like a bug.....This is what the Mayan calendar is telling us.....The old area which we once knew has expired and the new area will be that with which no one could imagine.....Let the Hunger Games begin!

      • John Adams

        I will NEVER vote for that kind of republican party.

      • beelp

        I have to keep saying it. Eventually it MAY sink in. George Bush, Sr (Bush the 1st) is a New World Order eletist and a Republican. The family sucks.

        • elmcqueen3

          It appears the Democrats and Republicans are in bed together....The idea is for both party's to split the masses....With which to better squash the gullible populace like a bug....This is why no Repubulican objected to Obama's signing of the National Denfense Authorization Act (inspired by Republican John McCain) or George Bushes Patriot Act along with Homeland Security and our now infameous TSA.....All designed to keep you and me from seeing what really is at play here....Whereas the American poplulace is now a threat to those who govern and those who get out of line must pay the ultimate price.....They can now legally be labeled as a terrorist by our government with the full support of our corrupt and unAmerican congress....By executive order Obama now has a Kill List on his desk with the names of many American citizen's.....The Liberals, the progressives, the socialist, the unionist, the marxist, the athiest, the muslims, the jews, the communist, are all jumping up and down with joy.....Not realizing their own names have been added to the President's list of those who must die to keep America safe for Democracy!....."When will They ever Learn"?.....Peter, Paul and Mary.

        • sonny

          You got THAT right...yet the stupid ppl re-elected Bush Jr. too.
          You just can't fix STUPID.

        • TheBigGeezer

          beelp... it sounds more like you suck a$$hole.

      • steph

        Absolutely not!

      • medic2003

        You got that right my friend. I watched the Hunger Games with my kids, and i commented through the whole movie. This is a scary thing, and its not just entertainment. It can happen and is closer than we think.

        People need to start standing up, voting for reps and senators on the state level with Ron Paul mindsets. Maybe not carbon copies but at least Constitutional. People need to support groups like Oath keepers. These people are our first line of defense against what is coming. Not only support them, join them. People need to write to their state congress members and demand that they nullify unconstitutional Federal acts or laws. We need to abolish these globalist punks that have hijacked our country. We need to stand strong against the UN agenda 21. Fight the UN small arms treaty. If we are unarmed we are pawns, if we can fight they still have to fear us. If we the people stand up against this tyranny they cant win. If we keep our heads in the sand and continue to allow them to dumb us down and ram through things that are unconstitutional and downright criminal we have no chance.

        FIGHT PEOPLE. Not amongst ourselves over which globalist will kill the country faster, fight THEM and take our FREE nation back from these scum.

    • http://www.facebook.com/nicholas.trull Nicholas Trull

      I wish all the rinos, like Carlos Gutierrez, would just switch parties. They would be far less dangerous to The Constitution that way! As Republicans, they drive us down! The only one that can save our party and this country, is Jesus!

      • John Adams

        Yes, Jesus IS the only one who can rescue this country. However, one has to wonder whether He would be willing to do so. I believe that we must repent of our national sins before He would rescue us.

        • patsy1715

          Amen....

        • fedup in fl

          Hey, Jesus don't care about this country or any other country, well maybe
          Isreal. But thats it my man.

        • mallen11

          You are totally wrong. Where does it say in the Bible that God doesn't care about this country? He cares that people need to turn back to Him and honor His name and learn His ways before we sink into the worse discipline we have ever seen in this country.

          II Tim 1:7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and love and discipline.

          Heb 12:6 FOR THOSE WHOM THE LORD LOVES HE DISCIPLINES, AND HE SCOURGES EVERY SON WHOM HE RECEIVES."

          Heb 4:12 For the word of God is alive and powerful sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

        • tsimitpo

          Yes, but this country has allowed its government to usurp His authority and replace Him with themselves.

        • mallen11

          Always use the Bible...

          For He that is in you is far greater than he that is in the world!! 1 Jn.4:4

        • fedup in fl

          Bible, koran, whatever. It doesn't say in any of these history books
          that Yaway of allah give a rats rear one way or the other for one
          country or the other. The bible says Isreal, which meant the jewish
          people. Yea he gave them a piece of property, but they screwed that
          up. He said to go in and kill everything in it first and they didn't do it.
          Buts the only piece of property the bible says anything about.
          Again there ain't no supreme power who picks one piece of
          property over the other.

        • mallen11

          fedup, you will never understand until you know the Lord Jesus Christ as your savior.

          1 Corinthians 2:14….But the natural man (unbeliever) receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

          John 3:36 He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."

          Acts 16:31 They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved.

        • Jeff Brodhead

          What?

        • frawgeyz

          so wrong fedup! God is a merciful and loving God and He cares and is "...not willing that any should perish...." but that all should be reconiled to Him through Jesus the Christ.

        • Henry F Smith

          Where do you get your info? Are you some sort of prophet?

        • http://www.facebook.com/robert.andersonsr Robert Anderson Sr

          Again READ the BIBLE !! Throw your Play Boy Mags. away and read the TRUE BOOK !!

        • http://www.facebook.com/robert.andersonsr Robert Anderson Sr

          Yo man ,you need to sit and read the Bible ! But then if your an atheist you wouldn't know what a Bible is? Enrique is right ,We(Our Country) has turned it's back on God ! OUR Country was founded on Christian views and now we have taken God out of the Schools,Courts & Our Life !!

        • caskinner

          And you know this how......

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Keith-Conder/100000478880519 Keith Conder

          John 3:16 - 17: "For God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten Son so that ANY who should believe on HIm should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but so that the world, through Him might be saved."

          Now, just exactly where in those verses does it say Jews only?

        • frawgeyz

          Keith it does not say the Jew only but does not exclude them either.

        • Al

          Jesus does care for his followers. You need to blow the dust off of your Bible and read how God defended Judah under Hezekiah's reign. God is not in that struggle in Israel today because they still reject Jesus. Israelis are doing things man's way and relying on their massive military. God still cares for Israel and will eventually destroy its adversaries when it turns to Jesus.

        • reddhead

          So Israel should just let them run right over top of them right God help you

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carol-Fryer/100000156546455 Carol Fryer

          It keeps going back to ..." If My people"

        • mallen11

          Where in the Bible does it say we have to repent of national sins? The Bible does say we are to confess, acknowledge, admit, or name our (personal)sins to God (1 John 1:9) but we can't "repent" (which means change of mind) for other people's sins or for this nation's sins. Therefore, if we want God to rescue America we need to change our minds about the way we are living, learn the ways of the Lord Jesus Christ and apply them to our lives.

          To all who read this...
          If you are not a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, check these verses out:

          (John 1:11-13, 3:16, 5:24, 10:28-30, 14:6; Acts 16:31; Romans 3:23-26, 5:8, 6:23, Ephesians 2:8-10; Titus 3:5; Hebrews 7:24-25; I Peter 1:18-19, I John 5:11-13)
          If you are a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ...

          II Peter 3:8… but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity.

        • frawgeyz

          Amen. Salvation is not collective but a personal experience for each who would accept Jesus as Lord and savior by the conviction and leading of the HG.

          Repent and be converted that your sins may be blotted out through Jesus

          and what He did to reconcile us with the Father. Not what we can do. We are saved by grace (unmerited favor) unto good works but good works do not save us. The commandments urge us to repent by seeing that we are all sinners and have truly come short of God's glory.

          Paul said it best, "the law was given that sin might abound, but where sin did abound grace did more abound".

          Romans 5:20. The law calls us unto this repentance because sin is not only an action but a atate of mind! We may be able to conyrol actions but not thoughts. Matt.5:24-30. As the prophet Isa. "there is none
          righteous .no not one, for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God"Isa. 57:1 Romans 3:10.
          We can as believers pray for our nation though malen11. "Te prayers of a righteous man availeth much".

        • mallen11

          Greek “metanoeo” (met-an-o-eh’-o) – “to change one’s mind” (mental).
          If one tries to repent before believing in the Lord Jesus Christ they are trying to add something to salvation. We cannot pray to the Father before we believe in Jesus Christ. From the Greek “metamelomai” (met-am-el’-lom-ahee) repent – “to feel sorry for something you’ve done”
          (emotional). Matt 27:3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders. Feeling sorry for our sins is not part of salvation.

          II Pet 3:9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. (Means change of mind towards Him).

          Repentance in salvation – Luke 13:3, 5; 15:7, 10; 16:30-31; Act 17:30-31; 20:21; Rom 2:4; 2 Pet 3:9
          The verses you used were all in regards to one changing their minds about Christ and believing in Him.

        • frawgeyz

          Sorry Mallen one cannot be forgiven lest one repent! One does not need a savior unless they know they are sinners.
          I don't know what you think you are saying but you are wrong!
          As for Judas he went to men for forgivness and this is why he continued unto perdition! Peter on the other hand repented before God.
          It is not as muddled as you present it.
          It is the HG that convicts the indivudual ( or world per se) of sin and then He testifies of Christ, These are the word's of Jesus Himself. You can look them up.

        • mallen11

          frawgeyz: Of course people need to know they are a sinner before they realize they need a savior; however, there is nothing one can do to be saved except to change their mind about Jesus Christ and believe in Him as thier savior.

          Pseudo repentance – feeling sorry for sins – metanoeo – repent: means to change your mind.

          We can’t repent and be saved, we can’t change our evil ways before salvation.

          Repent and believe means to change your mind about Christ. Repent does not mean to feel sorry for your sins and ask God to forgive you before you believe. That is doing “works” for salvation.

          People think they have to straighten out their life before believing in Jesus Christ. Or give up smoking, gambling, drinking, etc. first. They all want to help God but no one can. It is like trying to get out and push a jet plane. All you have to do is believe. Acts 16:31 They said,"Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household."

          It’s all God’s GRACE; not what you do. Repenting of sins is works, believing in Jesus Christ is non-meritorious.

          How you feel about your sins has nothing to do with it. God took care of your sins when He imputed all our sins on Jesus Christ and God the Father judged them. The Substitutionary Spiritual Death that was finished on the cross and stands forever. Jesus said, “Tetelestai” – “it is finished” John 19:30 – He did ALL the work for salvation; we can do nothing but believe in Him by faith.

          Eph 2:8-9 For you have been saved by GRACE in the past with the result that you continue to be saved forever through faith; and this salvation is not from yourselves, it is a gift of God; not by works, that no one may boast.
          And yes, the Holy Spirit (not ghost, since God is not a ghost but a spirit) convicts of sin (That doesn't mean we repent our sins before salvation) and He is the one who puts us in union with Christ at the moment we believe in Christ.
          God does not hear any prayer of any unbeliever except when one believes in His Son. After salvation, we are to confess our sins (1 John 1:9) when we sin.

          I Cor 12:13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.

        • frawgeyz

          I never said that one must change their lives to come to God Mallen.
          You said that repentance has nothing to do with salvation. That is playing with words and confusing to people.
          One needs to know that they are sinners and turn to Jesus to save them, We cannot even after being saved use works to buy God's grace or mercy.
          Remeber that there are religious and good people who do not realize the way in Christ! They are working out their salvation and they need to know that this is not God's way. We are talking, or at least I am speaking of knowing when one is either good or bad that they are alienated from God and must "repent and be converted(turn about, change one's mind for the better) that your sins may be blotted out".
          I will not go through the whole of things again pertaining to law and repentance. I think that you fully understand what I was saying.
          We just must be careful how we say things. I do not speak of your repentance but the one that the Bible teaches. I believe you are speaking of a religious persuasion type of repentance and that is not what the scripture say's.
          Perhaps you did not understand what I said but saying what you said
          can be detrimental to those who may not be saved.
          You speak in the vein of religion and with that I agree.
          You speak as one who believes and what you said may be misconstrued by unbelievers.
          Being born again is an experience and a shocking one. We are transformed in our minds towards God from whom we were once alienated.
          This comes by conviction of the HG which leads to Jesus as savior.

        • mallen11

          frawgeyz, to get over this misconception of salvation we both seem not to understand what the other wrote. This is what I believe about salvation...

          Eternal salvation from sin, death and hell is the free gift of God's grace, and is based solely upon man's personal faith and belief in Jesus
          Christ. He voluntarily died as a substitutionary sacrifice for our sins and
          arose bodily from the dead, thus guaranteeing our own resurrection to eternal life. This salvation is not received by, nor based on, any sacrament, merit, or good work on our part or confession of sin. The one who receives Christ's salvation is eternally secure. (John 1:11-13, 3:16, 5:24, 10:28-30, 14:6; Acts 16:31; Romans 3:23-26, 5:8, 6:23, Ephesians 2:8-10; Titus 3:5; Hebrews 7:24-25; I Peter 1:18-19, I John 5:11-13)

        • frawgeyz

          "This salvation is not received by, nor based on, any sacrament. merit or good work on our part or confession of sin." I will take this even further and say that even baptism does not make us right with God! These are the ideas of the world. They are totally out of Egypt and Babylon.

          I totally agree with what you said above! I correctly guessed in my last post that this was what you meant. You were speaking of the religious worlds concept of salvation!

          Confession and being sorry and doing all the good works in the world will never save! Man's ideas of getting right with God are not God's ideas!

          You threw me when you said that "repentance has nothing to do with salvation". Can you see why? I was not thinking as a nonbeliever but as a believer. Perhaps I missed an earlier post.

          Nothing within our power can make us right with God! Amen!

          I was a miracle myself Mallen. I was even from the teen years a very religious person. Someone who does good, loves God and His laws is the hardest of all converts. I thank God for the prompting of the HG and His leading to the only way of reconciliation with God.

          With God all things are possible. Before I understood "it is finished" I worked hard believeing that I was following God's plan. That was 44 years ago and the understanding of what Jesus did transformed me completely. He is the only way to reconciliation with the Father and to eternal life!

          Man's efforts are void and of none effect. Yes, being sorry for what one's sins again and again is of none effect. All and any of our attempts at righteousness are futile!

          There is no other way in heaven or earth by which a man is saved but through the redeeming work and sacrifice of Jesus.

          It is by grace and grace alone.

          I believe we are now in complete agreement.

          God Bless you Mallen and thank you for the clarification.

        • mallen11

          Thank you, frawgeyz, we are definetly in agreement. I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving and a meaningful Christmas season that honors our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

        • frawgeyz

          Yes Mallen. Thank you and may you also have a wonderful Thanksgiving and a meaningful Christmas in the Lord our God.
          May He always be magnified my brother.

        • mallen11

          You have no way of knowing but my first name is Mary.
          Yes, our main purpose as believers is to glorify Jesus Christ through the study and learning of His Word mainly taught by our pastor-teacher so we can grow in grace and knowledge of Him.

        • frawgeyz

          lol! Then God Bless you sister! May you grow in knowlege of Him and may He keep you safe always.

        • Henry F Smith

          Read the Thanksgiving Proclamation by President George Washington given on the 3rd of October,1789. I think George had it right.

        • mallen11

          No where have I said not to pray for our country or our leaders. I said we cannot "repent" for our country because "repent" means to change one's mind in the Greek. Prayer is our greatest weapon when we know how to pray. Most people don't. I have finally been able to pray for -0 by name and for his cabinet members and for our country. I had to learn how to pray many years ago and it does make a difference when we pray according to His Word...

          Before God can answer our prayers -- positively or negatively -- He has to hear them first.

          We must acknowledge, name or confess our sins to Him first: 1 John 1:9, Rom 2:15, Psalm 66:18

          We are NOT righteous if we have mental attitude sins or overt sins that we have not confessed to God the Father before we make our request known to Him.

          John 4:24 God is spirit and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.

          We must worship God (includes prayer) in Spirit (in fellowship with God) and in truth (using the Word of God so we know how to pray and what to pray about) otherwise our prayers are not acknowledged by God.

          Jude 1:20 But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit,

          1 Thessalonians 5:17 Pray without ceasing. (Means we pray on a consistent basis daily.)
          BTW, George Washington was our greatest general and president but it doesn't mean he was a Biblical scholar.

        • sonny

          Some say that obama is Gods' CURSE on a country that has turned it's back on HIM. Why would He save a country that mocks Him and shakes their fist at Him and breakes every one of His commandments???

        • frawgeyz

          God always has a people Sonny. Even a remnant. Let us not forget this and also that there are many to come yet! Rev.6:10.
          God Bless you Sonny.

        • stonemike

          Get real man!

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004047180339 John Adams

          Why would you think that isn't "real"?

        • Enrique

          And , we must be for Isreal for God has said he would turn his back on a country that turned its back on Isreal

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004047180339 John Adams

          EXACTLY!!! We MUST support Israel!!

        • Stan

          We haven't turned our back on Israel, Obama has. But there again, who elected Obama?

        • Goodvsevil

          The atheists.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Sanders/100001563813006 Bill Sanders

          Israel is the Rothschild's country, not God's. The Satan-worshipping Zionists named their country Israel to fool the Christians - and it worked perfectly...

        • http://www.facebook.com/robert.andersonsr Robert Anderson Sr

          God also gave us a brain to think for our selves & right from wrong ! Too many rely upon what some Politician tells them ? Romney had some good idea's to bring our country back as he did with a lot of Companies ! Grouping people on SS into the Entltlement group mad a lot of people mad? You have the FREEBIES & ILLEGALS then the WELFARE who will not work!

        • frawgeyz

          social security is not a freebe. People including you pay each week from your pay and your employer matches whatever amount you pay. This starts from your first job.
          This was meant to be for those who worked a lifetime and paid into this program every week. It should have been invested to grow but the politicians used it and put IOU's in place of the money!They also dole it out to those who never contributed or even worked a day in their life.
          The only intelligent thing that Al the Gore said when he ran for president is that there should be a lock box on social security!

        • Al

          A nation can go too far and God will turn His back on them as we read in Ezekiel and Jeremiah. If Americans would turn to God again all of our problems would eventually correct themselves. In a society such as ours, revival begins with individuals. We need more Christian missionaries right here in America.

        • Common Man

          Sadly, I agree with you. We have become the same as Israel in Jeremiah's time...

      • Buckeye8

        Nick, take a look at your party as they have absolutely nothing in common with Jesus. Wake up and see what they do not what they say. They were all liars and four of them even came up with God told them to run. They need prayer .

      • Henry F. Smith

        Read the Thanksgiving Proclamation by President George Washington given on the 3rd of October,1789. It contains the cure.

      • Al

        You got your wish in this election. You should blame the dishonest Romney crowd for changing the rules at the RNC in order to steal the Ron Paul delegates. Romney won the battle and lost the war.

      • R. Brancatelli

        Amen.

      • Don39

        There is nothing holy or savable about the republican party or any other.This nation is not a theological nation , but one that guarantees freedom of religeon and so only one who does not believe in the Constitution could possibly believe that Jesus will have anything to do with saving it. If it is salvaged it will be by men who believe in freedom and the Constitution of all faiths that will save it, not Jesus and not the republican RINO party!

      • SamRiddle

        Please go to: http://righttoworkcommittee.org/rprtwac_petition.aspx?pid=zo17
        and sign Senator Rand Pauls' National Right to Work Petition and lets shut down these Unions that are destroying our country... Thanks and God Bless Sam

      • scientist5

        Again - I am a BIG C conserative. We need votes and not accusations from moderates or far right. I believe we need to win the elections. To do this we have to toughen our tactics and do some character assassination on the Demos. One helluva lot of votes are available from people who do not THINK.

    • gay robertson

      romney lost the election because he isn't a true conservative and so he syayed away from all the conservative issues

    • Upaces

      I am right there with you.

    • SniperToo

      You are right, BUT, Romney should have not over did the "Presidential like" posture and hit little o below the belt during the debates. We need someone who believes in this country, the Constitution, etc.... Not play "Presidential like". You have to be tuff in order to beat the thugs at their own games. Romney was a spineless worm and he was pushed down our throats by the rinos. He hired a battery of lawyers to keep an eye on the voting fraud and he should have never succeeded from the race. He should have told little o, I am not going away and I won over you, and send his lawyers out to the states that were openingly cheating (electronic machines) and demanded a recount. Romney had no balls. I had to hold my nose when I voted for him.

    • http://www.facebook.com/john.brashear.31 John Brashear

      John, thats not all, they have abandoned decency and the sanctity of the Vote, they entered into an agreement with Democrats not to go after vote fraud....see the above link....then Raise hell with the Party leaders, ....those would be the same that Blame you and I for his Loss....

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004047180339 John Adams

        I have come to believe that all in DC actually play for the same team; they just wear different colors to try and confuse us. As far as I'm concerned, the game is OVER!!

    • Al

      I agree with you. The Republicans were not thinking about conservatism when they were voting in the primaries. They were simply going along with the biased media for the person they thought would beat Obama. Ron Paul was the only Republican candidate with a real chance to win but was targeted by the media for his perceived "anti Zion" stance. He would have had the votes from his supporters, who abandoned Romney, and many white Democrats.

    • Don39

      Let us not leave out abandonment of he true adherents of the Constitution and the Republic, and capitalism, which is the real essence of the republican betrayal and conspiracy! And the reason that the nation is without , ignoring, the Constitution and the rule of Law and is firmly in the hands of the anti-American anti-Constitution leftist socialist regressive movement and a fraud thugocracy!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004047180339 John Adams

        I can't disagree with you at all.

  • http://twitter.com/toothii Gary Moscowitz

    Although I would have preferred a more conservative candidate, the feeling at the time was that Independents would decide the election, and too right of center would not go over well with "Indies" I guess we republicans automatically felt all Repubs would go out and vote, better for our candidate, even with flaws, than another 4yrs of Obama's leftist idealology But apparently, too many Repubs stayed home. Do you really want to blame Romney for that, or do we merely just have to look in the mirror?

    • jwoop66

      Well, if nothing else, the Dems were smarter in that they motivated their base. Repubs excluded a significant portion of it when they snubbed the paulbots and the tea party. The dems know what their base wants and they paid lip service to it; Regardless of how degenerate it was. The repubs ignore what their base wants to hear and like cowards, shy away from it and deny it and call it fringe. We all get what we deserve.

      • http://twitter.com/toothii Gary Moscowitz

        I don't disagree with you there, but we lost sight of the big picture. That was to get a Repub. in the WH, a continued Repub House and hopefully a Repub. Senate. We got one out of three. Not good at all.

        • jwoop66

          Nope, it isn't. We aren't gonna get what we want by being democrats, however. I personally don't care about social issues much, but fiscally, we need to go to the right. The original Tea Party had it. When "tea partiers" start talking about abortion and God; as if He's in the room, I glaze over at best.

          Actually, I was a strong proponent of voting for Romney so we would have a slow fall and more time to prepare. I disagreed with the Abstainers. I no longer feel that way. The reset IS coming. The dems will not stop their tactics. Illegal immigration is all about separatism. They will NOT vote for "whitey". Not saying they hate whites, they are just voting in the abstract, and along with unchecked spending and a welfare state, it will ultimately help destroy the republic.

          At this point, I am for a rapid reset. Unfortunately, it is our only hope. We must be prepared for it however, and not just individually. We have to have a power structure ready to take over and lead by Constitutional principles. May God be with us...

      • TheBigGeezer

        republicans (as liberal as they are) did not snub the paul-idiots. Blame the pual-idiots for not voting for the only semi-conservative voice we had... instead they wanted to see obama reelected... they are idiots and we need to lay the blame of this election at their feet.

  • Coffie

    Romney was a sterling candidate, a great man, and clear cut conservative. The problem wasn't Romney but rather the decay of our country ...morally, economically, spiritually ... the consequence of decades of liberals in powerful places, like TV, film, and classrooms. This election just brought it all to light .... that we are officially in deep and dark decline!

    • meg903

      Meg to Coffie
      Thank goodness for a sensible comment, and the best one yet. I agree, and it is amazing that more can't see how far our country has got off base. There were many reasons Romney didn't win, and none of them were his fault. All these lies docdave1
      gave just shows how ignorant some are. The election is over, and I am hoping that if there is anyway possible that Obama will fail to be sworn in for the next term, he will not get to serve again. There is a lot of unfavorable stuff out on him, so why don't those with authotity do something? It is time for those who could do, to wake up and take the bull by the horns. " We the People," are waiting.

      • medic2003

        The fact that you think what docdave said were lies shows how ignorant you are. Im not saying that to be hateful, Im just making a point. People HAVE to break away from this 2 party crap because until they do, and start demanding the Constitution be followed we are oly going to go deeper in the abyss that is this nation.

        Romney is a sterling RINO, he may be a decent guy but he is NOT a conservative. You are right about the decay, however the current republican party is not the one to fix it. Ron Pauls republican party could, Ronald Reagans party could but definitely not what we have now.

        You better pray we get more constitutional candidates in office or we are literally screwed.

  • Marlin208

    Voter fraud, voter fraud. What the heck is wrong with this idiot. It was voter fraud plain and simple.
    Why is it ok for the Dems to run a radical lib but we can never have a real conservative because that makes us way too radical.
    Get over it. We need more conservatives not less.

    • John

      I hate to say this, but this type of situation does not come about without both parties being involved. As far as Mr. Romney is concerned he was supposed to have a team of lawyers standing by to challenge the election if there was evidence of voter fraud. Well there is evidence and where is the team of lawyers? I’ll tell you where they are, they were told to stand down. I have also not heard a peep out of any for the supposed conservative talk show personalities, not a peep. Does that tell you something as well; it tells me that they are in the tank too. It is up to the American People good Republicans and Democrats, rich, poor, black and white because we are our strongest when we stand together and we must stand together on this folks or we will not have a country left. Remember one thing this government that we find ourselves under doesn’t give a hoot about you, they just use you so do not let them insult your intelligence by playing one American against another. Stand tough and stand together. Stand up; make your voices heard, as if your life depended on it, because it does.

      • jennyp63

        Very good! First, Sheriff Joe established proof of Obummer's inelligibility and no one was willing to follow up on it, even though most of the leg-work had been done. Then came the proven voter fraud; still, no one has confronted the issue. Within moments, Obummer was declared president and everyone just walked off and said, "OK. That's the way it is." It is unimaginable to me that no one even seems to care. It was the perfect time to scream Corso's famous "Not so fast!". You are so right. Where are the attorneys? Where are the people who have lost loved ones in prior wars, fighting to keep this country strong and free? I can't hear the voices. They should be there; loud and long! As you said, we must stand together and make our voices heard....as if our lives depend on it. They do. No truer words have ever been spoken.

      • mallen11

        The only way to stand together is we all put God first in our lives; learn His ways and apply them to our daily lives. (I am not talking about religions but what the Bible says) There is no other togetherness -- there is no human organization that will work together to defeat the evil in this Nation. Only the togetherness of believers in the Lord Jesus Christ growing spiritually in His Word and praying for our leaders and our country.

        Jeremiah 17:5 -Thus says the LORD, “Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind and makes flesh his strength, and whose heart turns away from the LORD

        Heb 13:5-6 “Let your character [manner of life] be free from the love of money, being content with what you have; for He Himself has said, "I WILL NEVER DESERT YOU, NOR WILL I EVER FORSAKE YOU," so that we confidently say, "THE LORD IS MY HELPER, I WILL NOT BE AFRAID. WHAT SHALL MAN DO TO ME?"’ [Live your life as unto the Lord]

        Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him; And He will make your paths straight.

    • squeak

      Very, Very True... It was Voter Fraud, third party voters, idiots that did not vote because their man was not nominated that is who helped Obama win...now that is plain & simple Nut Jobs !

  • docdave1

    To All Republicans

    The movie, “The Obama Deception” very well predicted
    the future results of Obama's Presidency way back from when he was sworn in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

    and so did the second part titled, “Fall of the Republic”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU&feature=relmfu

    Yes, Obama is the enemy of your freedom and prosperity, your
    future and your children's future.

    But do you really know who Mitt Romney is?

    The following are 40 ways that Barack Obama and Mitt Romney
    were essentially the same candidate....

    1. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both supported TARP.

    2. Mitt Romney supported Barack Obama's "economic stimulus"
    packages.

    3. Mitt Romney says that Barack Obama's bailout of the auto
    industry was actually his idea.

    4. Neither candidate supports immediately balancing the federal budget.

    5. They both believe in big government and they both have a track record of being big spenders while in office.

    6. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both fully support the Federal
    Reserve.

    7. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are both on record as saying that the president should not
    question the "independence" of the Federal Reserve.

    8. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney have both said that Federal
    Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke did a good job during the last financial crisis.

    9. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both felt that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke
    deserved to be renominated to a second term.

    10. Both candidates oppose a full audit of the Federal Reserve.

    11. Both candidates are on record as saying that U.S. Treasury Secretary
    Timothy Geithner has done a good job.

    12. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney have both been big promoters of universal health care.

    13. Mitt Romney was the one who developed the plan that Obamacare was later based upon.

    14. Wall Street absolutely showers both candidates with campaign
    contributions.

    15. Neither candidate wants to eliminate the income tax or the
    IRS.

    16. Both candidates want to keep personal income tax rates at the exact same levels for the vast majority of
    Americans.

    17. Both candidates are "open" to the idea of
    imposing a Value Added Tax on the American people.

    18. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both believe that the TSA is
    doing a great job.

    19. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both supported the NDAA.

    20. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both supported the renewal of the Patriot Act.

    21. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both believe that the federal
    government should be able to indefinitely detain American citizens that are
    considered to be terrorists.

    22. Both candidates believe that American citizens suspected
    of being terrorists can be killed by the president without a trial.

    23. Barack Obama has not closed Guantanamo Bay like he
    promised to do, and Mitt Romney actually wants to double the number of prisoners held there.

    24. Both candidates support the practice of "extraordinary
    rendition".

    25. They both support the job-killing "free trade" agenda
    of the global elite.

    26. They both accuse each other of shipping jobs out of the
    country and both of them are right.

    27. Both candidates are extremely
    soft on illegal immigration.

    28. Neither candidate has any military experience. This
    is the first time that this has happened in a U.S. election since 1944.

    29. Both candidates earned a degree from Harvard University.

    30. They both believe in the theory of man-made global warming.

    31. Mitt Romney has said that he will support a "cap and
    trade" carbon tax scheme (like the one Barack Obama wants) as long as the entire
    globe goes along with it.

    32. Both candidates have a very long record of supporting strict gun control measures.

    33. Both candidates have been pro-abortion most of their
    careers. Mitt Romney's "conversion" to the pro-life cause has
    been questioned by many. In fact, Mitt Romney has made millions on Bain Capital's investment in a company
    called "Stericycle" that incinerates aborted babies collected from
    family planning clinics.

    34. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both believe that the Boy Scout ban on openly gay troop
    leaders is wrong.

    35. They both believe that a "two state solution"
    will bring lasting peace between the Palestinians and Israel.

    36. Both candidates have a history of nominating extremely liberal judges.

    37. Like Barack Obama, Mitt Romney also plans to add "signing statements" to bills when he signs them into
    law.

    38. They both have a horrible record when it comes to job creation.

    39. Both candidates believe that the president has the power
    to take the country to war without getting the approval of the U.S. Congress.

    40. Both candidates plan to continue running up more
    government debt even though the U.S. government is already 16 trillion dollars in debt.

    http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/40-points-that-prove-that-barack-obama-and-mitt-romney-are-exactly-the-same

    Who is Mitt Romney? He is the
    son of Rockefeller Republican George Romney. Look at who called him “..our
    favorite son!” None other than globalist kingpin Nelson Rockefeller.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJSHaxRZQVA

    Mitt Romney would have been the enemy of your freedom and
    prosperity, and your children's future just as much as Obama. He is a
    “Rockefeller Republican” and true to the legacy of J.D Rockefeller, he is as
    slick as the snake oil selling family of banksters who pushed his father, and
    now push him. Just watch this....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccMpXDIB0cw

    “The argument that the two parties
    should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the
    Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to
    the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties
    should be almost identical, so that the American people can "throw
    the rascals out" at any election without leading to any profound
    or extreme shifts in policy.”-
    Carrol Quigley, Tragedy and Hope (We the People's Tragedy and the
    elite's hope)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRkCvubUGCM

    No doubt, if Romney had won, the destination
    would be the same for America, but we would have taken a more scenic route to
    oblivion. And most of you neo-conned sheeple would have gone back to sleep
    thinking that your “man” was in charge and all was well.

    I can't prove it but I suspect that the fix was in, and Obama knew
    it. He went to play basketball yesterday.
    The Lie Bold (Diebold) machines have been proven to be easy to hack.

    All things considered, this may be a blessing
    in disguise, for you no doubt are NOT going back to sleep again anytime soon
    after what happened yesterday.

    Obama now has a maximum of four years
    remaining in the office; If Romney or any of the other unqualified Republican's
    were elected then one would probably be looking at twelve to sixteen years
    before the people would have another opportunity to vote for a qualified
    candidate. This is based upon the premise that the unqualified Republican would
    probably get two terms, or at least prohibit a qualified candidate after his
    first term; then another switch back to an unqualified Democrat for at least
    four and maybe eight years. During the Republican Primaries, The establishment
    Republicans repeatedly demonstrated conclusively that they will undermine a qualified
    candidate on their own ticket and are opposed to limited Constitutional
    government; they offered, realistically, twelve to sixteen more years of
    failure. I don't think the Nation can survive another twelve to sixteen
    years, it may be able to survive another four.

    If the Republican
    Establishment had really wanted my vote, they would have needed to run and
    support qualified candidates who support and defend The Constitution - I'm not
    listening anymore to their nonsense about being against Obama when they
    undermined the only two qualified candidates they had, Congressman Paul and
    Governor Gary Johnson. Since they would not support two qualified
    candidates they did not get my vote for the unqualified candidate Mitt Romney. They
    are liars and can not be trusted. They are only against Obama because
    he is a democrat, not because they oppose his ideology and beliefs because they
    are pretty much the same as Romney.

    If the GOP were genuine in their belief of
    limited government we would not have seen the DELIBERATE marginalization of the
    best candidates. It's all smoke and mirrors; Simply one party with two names,
    both intent on the ruination of America. I am sick of watching this puppet
    show.

    There was One Candidate for President who has
    shown by his example, by his past record who he truly is: A Christian who does
    not brag about it, instead he walks the walk every day of his life practicing
    the Golden Rule; A family man who has been married to the same woman for 55
    years; The Patriarch of a family who are salt of the earth Americana at it's
    very best; A true Constitutionalist who has never wavered from his principles
    and Votes “NO” to every unconstitutional bill. And to those who say he did not
    get enough legislation passed I say that is like criticizing a Nun for not
    turning “tricks” in a brothel when her purpose for being there is to redeem the
    harlots and show them a better way.

    He does not boast, he does not brag, he does
    not tell you he is the toughest so elect him, because he has demonstrated a
    firm yet resilient purposefulness all his life and he speaks a simple yet
    powerful truth. He does not want to “lead” you by manipulative tyranny, instead
    his personal and political life is a benediction to virtue and inspires others
    to listen, look and act. He does not want to control you or your life. He wants
    you to live in Liberty. He wants you to live in Freedom. He does not seek the
    Presidency to assuage his ego. He sought the Presidency so he can Serve the
    People and Restore the Constitution and America and he was willing to forgo the
    $400,000 that Obama is being paid, and only accept $39,336 to serve us.

    If 7Up is the un-cola, Ron Paul is the
    Un-Politician and America would not have had to choose from coke “Obama” or
    pepsi “Romney.” Remember that you could have had a V8 in 08 instead of
    McCain't. McCain was a ringer and so was Romney in 12. Instead you will have to
    settle for O-bomb-a in 12. You could have had a Ron Paul instead and you would
    have been feeling a whole lot better about it today, after the election.

    You were warned that one of three likely
    scenarios would take place:

    1.
    “Ron
    Paul doesn't get the nomination and runs as a third party candidate: Ron Paul
    gets the following voters: (a. 2008 Obama voters who thought they were going to
    get 'Change', (b. 2008 Obama voters who voted to end the wars, (c. the VAST
    majority of the Independent vote. (d. Ron Paul supporters coming out to vote in
    DROVES. Maybe Obama wins. Probably Ron Paul wins.” But Ron Paul did not
    run as a third-party candidate. Instead, he stayed in The Party and worked hard
    against great odds to change the course of history until the bitter end of the
    Convention.

    2.
    “Ron
    Paul and his supporters are shut out and even violently attacked at the
    conventions: Fervent and stubborn Ron Paul supporters stay home or write him in
    or vote for Gary Johnson.” This
    is what happened

    RNC Disenfranchises Paul Delegates; Rigs Rules to Nominate Romney
    http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/12645-rnc-disenfranchises-delegates-rigs-rules-to-nominate-romney

    RNC/GOP Corruption 2012
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOLVrfPQWZM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

    RNC Sham 2012
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B39W91O-rUg&feature=player_embedded&fb_source=message

    Surrealism, Soviet Realism
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/119572.html

    3. This is what could have happened. “Ron Paul gets the GOP
    nomination: Ron Paul gets the following voters: (a. 2008 Obama voters who
    thought they were going to get 'Change', (b. 2008 Obama voters who voted to end
    the wars, (c. the VAST majority of the Independent vote, (d. the entire GOP
    voting block who dislikes Obama enough to vote for Ron Paul instead. (e. Ron
    Paul supporters coming out to vote in DROVES. Ron Paul definitely wins.”

    You could have made a difference. You could have awakened and
    got up and did something productive to get the only Constitutionally Qualified
    and most decent human being who was running for President; who so humbly walks
    the walk of Christ without calling attention to himself like so many who are
    glitter bugs talking as they are stumbling.

    “If you know the enemy and know
    yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you
    know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will
    also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you
    will succumb in every battle” Sun
    Tzu, The Art of War

    Next time, get behind someone who is truly Constitutionally
    Conservative like Ron Paul is. It will NOT be anyone like Marco Rubio,
    Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan, Michelle Bachman, Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, Newt
    Gingrich,Mr. 9-9-9 or Mitt Romney. And it will not be fat slob Krispy Kreme Chris Christie either.

    It WILL be someone like Ron Paul, Justin Amish, Walter Jones,
    John Duncan, Gary Johnson, Virgil Goode, Chuck Baldwin, or Rand Paul.

    History will record what we do today moving forward. Will we
    save America while we still can? Or will we re-arrange the furniture on a
    sinking ship? I am not young, but I feel for the young people and I would like
    to leave our children and our children's children an America of Freedom and
    Liberty with Constitutional Law, and specifically a Bill of Rights that protects
    their God given rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Posterity will judge us for what we do today, and for what we
    don't do today. Will Posterity pay homage to you for acting wisely to protect
    them by bringing flowers to your place of bodily rest, or will they curse your
    memory and bring sledge-hammers and wrecking balls to tear down your monuments
    and edifices and desecrate your graves?

    Think about it People.

    Yahoo:
    Ron
    Paul Only
    Candidate Able to Defeat Obama
    in New Poll
    Edges out Obama while Romney, suffering from Obama’s
    enthusiasm gap, at best ties Obama

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ron-paul-only-candidate-able-011300652.html

    Fox News says Ron Paul is the biggest threat to
    Barack Obama. Not Mitt Romney

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwn5lIJ-_cQ&list=FLeaKKMqnFUzdeR0pICdiDKQ&index=4&feature=plpp_video

    As George Washington once said,
    “Liberty,
    when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth.”

    Witness the Power of an
    Idea

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hgsg7a-Ok8Q

    “An
    Idea Whose Time Has Come, Cannot Be Stopped By Any Army Or Any
    Government” RP

    Ron Paul: The Economy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ephhKkfYKqQ

    Paul Plan to Restore America

    http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ron-paul-plan-to-restore-america/

    Romney's
    six largest campaign contribution sources in 2011 were executives,
    family members and affiliated political action committees of Goldman
    Sachs, JPMorgan
    Chase, Morgan
    Stanley, Credit
    Suisse, Citigroup
    and Bank
    of America, according to the Center
    for Responsive Politics, a Washington,
    D.C.-based group that monitors campaign finances.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/From-the-Wires/2012/0202/Mitt-Romney-draws-more-Wall-Street-donations-than-Obama

    By contrast, Ron Paul's three largest donors are
    The US Army, The U.S. Navy, and The U.S. Air Force.

    http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cid=N00005906

    • EMIRCITNA

      WOW! ~Fantastic articulate post; BEST I've read since owning my PC!

      Docdave1, you outdid yourself with this one, my friend, it's worthy of framing!

      My reply won't be as long, simply because Hosea penned our MAIN PROBLEM in the Bible verse 4:6 when he wisely proclaimed:

      "MY PEOPLE PERISH FOR THEIR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE"!

      Of course, both our educational institutions and especially national mainstream media are BIG PLAYERS in making certain that the people remain knowledge deficient!!!

    • TheBigGeezer

      it only took about 30 seconds to recognize where your post was headed with the distortions and lack of fact/truth to your comparisons. I hope you and you're paul-idiot buddies are proud of putting obama back in the white house...

      • medic2003

        Did you even read it? You couldnt have, because if you did, and you comprehended it you cant possibly think that being a Paul supporter is idiotic.

        I happen to agree with that post and agree that we need to start getting Paul minded people in office. We have to or we ALWAYS get more of the same. People NEED to wake up now more than ever.

  • ilpatriot58

    Mr. Gutierrez, along withKarl Rove & all the rest of the GOP "establishment type" campaign strategists need to go along with all the establishment members of the republican congress. They are the problem. How dare these strategist blame any candidate??? They are supposed to be the "experts", yet time & again we see them promoting the same old, same old, just to protect their livelihoods....Next election, I hope we see brand new faces as campaign strategists along with a true conservative candidate!!! I realize many repubs/conservatives sat on their hands & didn't vote & for this I am very ashamed of them & I will blame them for not removing a socialist/marxist from office...........

    • TheBigGeezer

      while rove and the rest were touting their boards and numbers... the liberals were attacking the conservative candidates... relentlessly. That's why obama was reelected.

      • beelp

        "TheBig..." short, sweet and right to the point! Well stated.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002198081296 Right Way

    The reality is simply this. Politicians and their cronies, advisers, pals, workers OF EITHER PARTY, SIMPLY WANT TO GET TO WASHINGTON DC OR THEIR STATEHOUSE. And honestly, they don't care how they get there. And once there, ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS STAYING THERE. The Republicans spent like drunken sailors at a whore house during the George W's administration. They were in a race to see who could outspend each other on both sides of the aisle. The Republicans HAD the power to reform the lending industry when they had control of the House, Senate and Presidency for 6 years and did nothing but talk about it. Once again, instead of doing something substantive, the "Gentlemen on the Left and the Gentlemen on the Right, kissed each others asses and made nice with each other so as not to rock the boat, and again AT THE EXPENSE OF THOSE THEY ARE PAID TO REPRESENT. This guy is just one more example of not wanting to Own the fact that they did a piss poor job and got their asses handed to them at the polls. Pathetic.

  • duane

    The GOP does not get it. That is why my family is no longer registered Republican. If we wanted a DEM we would vote for a Dem. We want smaller government.

  • Jerry Winkler

    Damn it, it is over! Time to move on and stop with the useless "blame game" that is so prevalent all over. I am an Independent and I, for one, am damn tired of all this crap.

    • EMIRCITNA

      ALL ENEMIES LOVE ...when their victims TIRE!

  • AlanWH

    The gop establishment has moved Too Far Left, but the bottom line is, we did not get the vote out. Blame it on the choice between a Mormon and whatever Hussein is, the Politcal Miscues, Voter Fraud, etc. The Truth is, that if the 3 Plus Million Registered Republicans who normally vote, but did not, came out and voted, even a luke warm moderate like Romney would be President. Why they didn't is what the gop should be trying to figure out and fix, but they are too Screwed up to fix anything. Start with Dumping All RINOS and so-called leaders like Boehner, McCain, Graham, etc. They are nothing but Totally Ineffectual Dead Weight.

    • elmcqueen3

      Agree.....These old dogs have to go.....no one is interested in hearing their old crap any more!

  • Mad Max

    The far right that's a BS excuse, look at the GOP to week
    and scared to cut the mustard. They never fight back
    against lies and rumors. They are kind of like sheep, they
    always run away from a fight, proving nice guys finish last.

    • ilpatriot58

      While I disagree with you & your family's decision to write-in a candidate I agree with your comments on the GOP......I am so sick & tired of hearing the bs about the big, scary gop.....what??? they are the biggest bunch of spinless jellyfish ever!!!!!! We have no one in the gop that has the cajones to stand up for us....to the media....to the demonrats.......

  • http://twitter.com/gravelbelly Craig Mutton

    During the election, Gary DeMar repeatedly endorsed Romney's turn to the right, his adoption of conservative principles. Now he agrees that Romney is the "most liberal Republican in the entire country". Inconsistency

  • Yuri Aisling

    I think GOP candidates need to stop running on moderate platforms, stand up for conservative values, and stop hiring people that are not conservatives for their campaigns. Romney didn't win because he was soft-balling too many things, and he had terrible advisers... that and voter fraud (as usual).

  • Don b

    I blame the Romney campaign managers for allowing him to be such a wimp. McCain light....

    • beelp

      You're so right,
      He just couldn't fight,
      He lost the election
      And wants to blame the Right.

  • stevor

    He's got that backwards. If romney weren't a RINO and were not so similar to o'bama, THEN the GOP would have a chance to win (but it wasn't the Elite's plan for the GOP to win this time just as it was NOT for the GOP to win last time with McCain)

    • TheBigGeezer

      remember how many so called republican pundits said it wouldn't be so bad if obama won again...

  • speedle

    In my view "true" conservatism is not connected with religious belief, only the right to practice it. Rightly or wrongly, the election was lost on the perception that Republicans would deny women's rights to choose. Romney did a pretty decent job of staying off today's "third rail", but the Chicago Gangsters successfully pushed him on to it with their bantering about contraceptives, etc. Assuming that we find a way to keep democrats from stealing elections at the voting precincts as they did this year, the future of the conservative cause will be determined by its ability to segregate religion from politics.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cecilbdmims George Ellis Mims

    Romney's a "good" man but his policies for many years have been the antithesis of what the Republican Party has stood for and this article bares that out. The "damned" right is RIGHT about what a healthier nation and citizenry can be, has been, and will be if we unload the RHINO's from our baggage!

  • Badshot46

    He should not blame the far right. We have turned into a capitalism vs. socialism country. 52% voted for socialism. You can't blame the hand that feeds you.
    It is time for a 3rd party, were 2 parties then form a coalition government