The Jars of Gay Apostasy: Lead Singer Tweets Betrayal of Jesus

Treating homosexuality as if it was as determined as to what race one is born, and denying “slippery slope” arguments, Dan Haseltine, the lead singer for allegedly Christian band Jars of Clay, came out in favor of same-sex “marriage” via Twitter on April 21.

That seems to me a bit like telling your spouse you want to divorce him via text message. (or rather: “Any non-speculative or non “slippery slope” reason I can’t date other men?”)

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From Michael Brown at the Charisma News website:

In a series of tweets posted over a three-day period, and prompted by a movie he watched while in flight, he wrote: “The treatment of people as less than human based on the color of skin is crazy… Or gender, or sexual orientation for that matter.”

Of course, to compare skin color with “sexual orientation” is to compare apples with oranges, as has been demonstrated many times before.

But that was only the beginning. He added, “Not meaning to stir things up BUT… Is there a non-speculative or non ‘slippery slope’ reason why gays shouldn’t marry? I don’t hear one.

The reason is that marriage is between a man and a woman. There is no such thing as same sex marriage. I could, at this point, start from Genesis 1 and 2, go through the Ten Commandments, into the Gospels and Epistles to make my argument. But there is no point. Haseltine stipulates as a basic commitment that the Bible doesn’t clearly reveal any moral teachings.

So then there is no such thing as following Jesus at all, according to Haseltine. Jesus left no clear moral guidance. What is the point of claiming to be a “Christian” if one insists it is impossible to follow Jesus Christ? And it gets even more ridiculous:

So it doesn’t matter what the Bible says; we are supposed to affirm both homosexual behavior and an insane redefinition of marriage.

It is quite clear from Haseltine’s tweets that he thinks whatever his homosexual friends want should be given to them regardless of what the Bible says. And, his pretence that there is no slippery slope to worry about signals that he is already firmly in denial land.

So he is open to arguments that don’t involve the authority of the Bible, that assume “gays” are a minority akin to a genetically-predetermined skin pigmentation, and that don’t argue there is a slippery slope to re-defining marriage and family. Other than that, he is completely open to dialogue.

I suppose in response to my criticism, Haseltine could put aside his claim to be a Christian (which is an act of honesty and integrity I don’t expect from him) and tell me I need to give him secular arguments because we aren’t a theocracy.

A couple of points:

First, it is hard to come up with a secular argument for or against homosexual marriage or mass murder or anything else. Once you assume a world that is ultimately impersonal (not only that God doesn’t exist but even that God is irrelevant, that he has not spoken) you don’t have a way of finding rules for personal conduct. (You can’t make much sense of persons at all.)

But if we ignore all that and look at the modern Darwinian ethos, same sex marriage makes no sense. As I wrote last month,

Many in our society profess to believe in evolution. So how does that work with this view of parenting? The premise of homosexuality is that it is just as healthy to have a sexual relationship with a person of the same sex as it is to do so with a person of the opposite sex. According to evolutionary theory, the brains and personalities of men and women are based on millions of years of evolution in which they needed to mate with the opposite sex and raise children to survive into adulthood.

So, given that intellectual foundation, how can it be emotionally and psychologically healthy to reject the opposite sex and take on a person of the same sex instead? Also, how can it be emotionally and psychologically healthy to be raised by a couple of homosexuals in love with each other rather than by a heterosexual couple? How can one be as good as the other on evolutionary assumptions?

Second, we do live in a theocracy. It is called the universe or reality. Jesus is king. Both by his deity and his right over creation and by his resurrection to restore humanity to its rightful power and destiny, Jesus is the ruler of all nations. He should be obeyed.

Not despised.