You Can’t Say Anything about Women that Doesn’t Apply to “Trans Women”

On Point with Tom Ashbrook is NPR’s answer to the Rush Limbaugh Show. One hour today seemed like it might be interesting.

Medication and Female Moods

Are American women being prescribed psychiatric drugs – anti-depressants, anti-psychotics — for normal emotions? We’ll hear out one psychiatrist’s bold claim.

I thought this was interesting because I’ve heard similar arguments about children and the medications to treat ADD and ADHD. This especially affects boys.

But a friend posted about a caller. That is the reason I’m posting about the show. The call starts at 19:37.

So to summarize the foolishness:

Julie Holland, a feminist psychiatrist, was promoting her new book on moody women and medication. She claims that women are “moody” simply because they are women. That’s just the way they are.

Then a woman calls from Decatur, Georgia. She objects to Holland’s “gender essentialism.” She’s discounting the experience of “trans women,” claims the caller. In other words, she’s not including deluded men who pretend to be women in her definition of woman.

But it gets even more surreal. The caller doesn’t claim that women aren’t moody. Rather, she agrees that women are moody but asserts their moodiness must not be connected to their biology because trans women are also moody.

There is a certain brilliance in this move, since it implies a reply to the accusation that men who claim to be trans are merely pretending to be feminine. In the caller’s view, women are also pretending.

The conversation descends from absurdity to absurdity. If that wasn’t enough, Holland replies that her “favorites” cousin is trans gender. She slips and says “he” is a “trans woman,” but she means a trans man–a woman pretending to be a man. She was moody, we are told, until she began taking testosterone.

And this call takes place right after Holland says that breast implants and shaving pubic hair are a “shameful” denial of “the fullness” of the “feminine.” I tend to agree but maybe they’re expressing their “gender identity.” After all, she endorses her cousin taking testosterone to drown her femininity and perhaps getting so-called surgery. Why isn’t that shameful?

It turns out the interview was a rerun. The show originally aired March 5. So they actually picked it out of many possible shows to be repeated. They thought it was that good.